Where do you worship? Remember to "thank (sic) the surveillance camera for watching over us"
.Posted by: jonny_norridge | 5/30/2003 04:49:00 pm |
I didn't know this, but Brian McLaren is speaking at Greenbelt this year!
This year the festival runs from Friday 22nd August to Monday 25th August 2003. You'll be allowed access to the site from 10:00am on Friday. Anyone goin?
As any geek worth his salt will know the latest Matrix film is now out. The BBC has an interesting article on it. Although I'm sure this is not news to anyone reading this blog. There are some good comments about the possible gnostic interpretation of the film. However, most interesting are the comments at the end by the readers including christians, muslims, and jews. I'm sure Paul would have had a field day with the Matrix.
.Posted by: jonny_norridge | 5/22/2003 03:36:00 pm |
Organic Church also to welcome Girl Bloggers!
Stop Press! A blog entry from a girl has arrived at last. I've been on the list for a little while and have finally plucked up the courage to post ... and now that the Norridges have broadband I hope Maddy can be added to the list too, so I'm not the only one!
Just a little introduction for those of you who don't know me ... I'm from Exeter, married to Steve, have three lovely children, part of Isca church, we have our own car sales business and we home educate the children. That doesn't leave much time for anything else but we try and squeeze in a bit of music, leading a housegroup (eek), and a social life if we're lucky. I had the pleasure of being at school with the Norridges so when I found the blog completely by chance one day I started reading and decided that I couldn't let you all get away with being an only male blogger population.
You probably won't see many posts from me unless I get some earth shatteringly amazing inspiration ... my most read bible is the Lion Children's version, so that's about the level I'm operating on!! However, it constantly challenges me to have to explain my theology in childlike terms, it's probably good for me. Steve and I love church (we just can't quite bring ourselves to like The Church) and again we're constantly talking about what church really means ... we haven't got any answers, just lots of questions.
Interestingly we see lots of parallels between school vs home education and established church vs real life faith, which has brought a lot of things down to ground level recently, so I'll probably talk about that a bit more another day - think you've had quite enough waffling from me for one entry. If you want to read more of my ramblings, here's our family blog.
Well, the Norridge household have moved into the 21st century...
We now have broadband
Thanks to a great ntl deal it didn't even take much persuading...
P.S. Don't worry Graham, one day, mate, one day
Yesterday an anonymous couple of people admitted to 'geek-like' tendencies. I mean, a wireless network and a new laptop just so you can surf the internet in the same room as your wife!! [Hmmmm]. A friend of mine has posted a paper that he wrote a little while back. It is worth a read if only for the excellent Lesslie Newbigin-like title...
Foolishness to the Geeks
I trust he won't mind me linking you to it! For all you potential geeks out there [and those who like to laugh at them!] ... let me know what you think...
Just thought I'd blog a fave quote of mine:
"In the sad irony of Paul’s meals, we speak of coming to church to be fed. In our case, the “meal” is usually a course of words prepared by one chef rather than the smorgasbord of rich conversation." (Reframing Paul: Conversatinos in Grace and Community by Mark Strom).
Can't really compete on the peotry...
The Seven Constants of Church Planting
By John Wimber
This article is adapted from a talk John gave to church leaders in the Spring of 1994 at a church planting conference in St. Louis, Missouri. Rather than changing the format significantly, we've retained John's basic speaking style throughout as he delivered the talk. We wanted to include this as our lead article because, as we gratefully reflect on John's legacy, it was he who established the Vineyard as a church planting movement from the very outset. Few people today speak to these kinds of essential issues with the kind of candor, humility, and pragmatic wisdom John brings. The following words are vintage John Wimber.
If I had to boil it all down and talk in terms of essentials, I would suggest that there are seven constants to church planting and these are constants which come out of years of experience! I think they are crucially important, not only for new church plants, but for old church leaders, as well.
1. Constantly Tell Your Story Constantly.
Guys come to me and say, I'm going a particular town to plant a church. Do you have any advice for me?" I say, "Tell everyone why you are there. And once you've told them ten times -- tell them five hundred more: Here's my story. This is why I'm here. This is the vision God has given me for planting this church, and this is how he's brought me to this point. We're the Vineyard and this is what we're about. This is the Bible. This is Jesus. God loves you; I want to tell you about him. That's why I'm here." You constantly tell your story, and you do it over the long haul, as well.
As a pastor I still do it. I tell parts of my story in sermons all the time with my people. Some of you have heard me do that and didn't know why. You've got to understand that I'm not trying to exalt myself - I'm trying to bring new people on board! Here's who we are, here's where we've been, here's where we are now, and here's where we are going." I constantly tell the story about what we're about and what we're doing. It's like an atomized can; I just spray it on everybody because you don't know who is going be sitting there listening to you and thinking, ``This is just what I've been looking for!"
The problem is many pastors get bored of telling their own story - so they quit telling it. And then they wonder why their church quits growing. Telling your story is a major part of vision-casting and leadership. Not telling your story can be a contributing factor to lack of church growth, because people lose focus when you're not consistently telling who you are and where you're going. And they lose their reason for existence. For many people, their sense of mission and reason for existence rightly comes in part out of being a part of this thing - advancing the Kingdom through the local church. And so people need to be constantly reminded of where we've been and where we're going with the vision that God's given this church. And you do that by constantly telling your story.
2. Constantly Tell His Story
I'm putting them in that sequence because that's kind of the way it works. Of course, that's not the true priority. The true priority is his story. Constantly tell his story. Every occasion ought to have his story in it. Jesus is the Son of God. It's always in there, always wrapped up in the midst of any exchange with people.
3. Constantly Explain the Mysteries of Life
What's important in life? Well, escaping the big one! Heaven or hell. That's a big one isn't it? I elect, I'm going to heaven. It's a better deal than hell. Now, the next big priority is, Do you want to get there first class or tourist? First class. That means commitment: commitment to Christ, commitment to his church, and commitment to his cause.
All over the world there are people who have committed themselves to Christ in the sense that they have prayed the prayer, bowed the head, or raised the hand. They want an insurance policy for the life hereafter - but they are not committed to the church! They disdain the church. Watch out for those. You don't want those people around you. Call them to commitment to the church. Our movement is full of people who are uncommitted to the church. They see it as something to merely accommodate them, to meet their needs. They do not see the church as the vehicle for the mission of Jesus. The first and foremost question isn't, "What's in it for me and my family?" but rather, "What's in it for Jesus?" What is he going to get out of this?" It's his church.
And it also means commitment to his cause. There are a lot of people who are committed to Jesus, and even to his church - but they are not committed to his cause. How do you know that? By looking at the measurements of how they spend their time, energy and money. They don't give any time to evangelism, to ministering, to caring for the poor, to looking after widows. Look at their calendar. Look at their check book. Who are they serving? It looks to me we are often serving everything but Jesus, when we look at where our money goes. Where are you really focused? Most people are not focused on Christ and his cause. So you need to tell them that, over and over again: "Alert! SOS! Wake up! You're not where you want to be! You're not where you are supposed to be! You're not committed!" Measure it!
We have to have ways of measuring where we're at in ministry. Most people play church like guys playing basketball without a ball and without a hoop. They play without the very things which provide a measurement, or standard, for who's winning the game. So long as you're playing basketball without an actual ball, anyone can appear to be graceful. Or if you don't play with actual hoops, everyone looks like they're a high scorer. But it's not real. You're playing a game without the very elements that tell you if you're winning or not! So when it comes to church leadership, I keep putting in the ball and the hoops. I keep bringing out things that are concrete ways of measuring how you're doing: Is the church growing numerically? Is there tangible fruit? Are people getting saved and assimilated into the church? How many of the poor are you caring for? How many new leaders have you developed? Is the quality of ministry and body life and love amongst people growing? Those kinds of questions make some people mad. They don't want you introducing those kinds of elements, because if you start actually measuring, things don't look so good. Some would rather appear to play than actually play.
Now, listen: The Vineyard is no exception in this regard. Sometimes when I'm one-on-one with pastors, they get scalded because I start asking them those kinds of questions and it just infuriates them. "He doesn't like me." I like him fine. I'm just trying to get him to wake up and smell the coffee, because he has the illusion that he's successfully serving God, but he has no measurement. I can tell you the specific measurements of how we're doing in our church here in Anaheim: I know that we had over five thousand street decisions last year. People that prayed the prayer. I know that by actual Bibles distributed and actual cards turned in. I also know how many of those people were actually discipled and assimilated into the church. I know how many people we baptized last year. I know how many new home groups were started. I have a system that reports that. Sometimes the system defaults, and I'm not always on top of it, but I know generally. And I know who to call if I don't have the numbers. You've got to have ways of measuring where you're at.
4. Constantly Disciple
How many of your people are actually in the army? That is a crucial question. Now, some of the people in the army are actually in the hospital at the same time. (Remember: the church is supposed to be an army, a hospital, and a family.) Sometimes more people are hospitalized than not. People get shot up. Or some people are back in school getting retrained because something happened that blocked off their ministry. They are out of the army - but that's okay. They aren't absent without leave. They're being retooled to go back in. You need to know that. And they need to know that it's okay to be in the hospital or to just be in the family. But it's not okay to live there permanently! Eventually we have to get you fielded because the measurement is not, I'm hanging out here indefinitely," but rather, "Here are the sheaves, here are the results, here are the works done in your name and in your service." I've read the Book pretty carefully and that's what I think it's all about. We work with people to get them in the army. Constantly disciple.
5. Constantly Expand the Infrastructure
Discipling produces the people to fill the infrastructure - but you have to constantly expand the infrastructure for the people you're bringing in. Different things need to be developed. Now, if you are a specialty shop (which is what a church plant is), then for the first six months you don't have much infrastructure to put people in because you don't need it. You may be a few years into the church before you need a lot of infrastructure. (Of course, it's possible that you should need more infrastructure, but don't, because you're not multiplying or discipline people. Sometimes that's because you yourself are not a disciple. The first person we often have to disciple is ourselves. You'll reproduce in kind. Some of you are in the process of planting a church and are wondering why it isn't happening. It could be one of a thousand variables, but one may be that you are not actually yourself doing the very things you want reproduced in others.) But if you're doing that if you're discipline and bring people in you need to constantly expand the structures of your leadership teams, your small groups, and your ministries to accommodate and assimilate and train up those who are coming in. Expanding the infrastructure is a constant task needing our attention if the church is to grow.
6. Constantly Live in Brokenness
The New Testament description of a Christian and the church suggests a very high level of godliness, and character, and constraint, and ministry, and compassion, and blessing, and spirituality. Then you look at the church we live in and it's way below.
The church is represented in my life. I'm not all that Jesus wants me to be. I'm not all that he's provided for me. I'm not walking in all that I know. I'm trying, but I'm not doing all that well some days. Are you? That leaves me in a broken state - an awareness of, ``O God, O God, except for your mercy and except for your grace." I think it's designed to be that way. I think we are supposed to live in the constant reality that we are not measuring up. Even in his righteousness, even under his mercy, even as a recipient of his grace, I can't walk like Jesus does. I touch on it every now and then. I visit it. That gives me hope and encouragement for more. But the reality is that we have to constantly live in brokenness. The way we do that is by not developing some sort of external religious thing that hides us and puts us in a denial process by which we pretend to be more than we are. Rather, we just learn to live constantly with the awareness that we just don't measure up. But that's good news, folks. If you don't measure up - if you can't measure up then you're constantly asking for Jesus to make up the difference. That's good news! It's pretty hard to act overly religious when you know you don't measure up, and that he's paying the difference. I'm not sure that we ever get incredibly better or stronger or mightier, becoming these great men and women of God. I think we always live with the awareness that we are serving the great God of men and women. Jesus came down to earth. I didn't go up to him. He came to the world. The world didn't come to him. I got saved by a merciful savior. Didn't you? And he's still merciful toward me. Everyday of my life I live in a constant awareness of that.
7. Constantly Re-evaluate and Be Flexible in What You Are Doing
No program, however lovely, isn't ready to measured and inspected from time to time. Continually look things over. Don't fix things that aren't broken. That's not valid. But be aware that something you did two years ago that did so well may not work this year. You had better look at it. What can we do to adjust it to make it work? Sometimes it's minor. Sometimes it's major. Sometimes some of the same leaders who were pulling your cart five years ago maybe can't pull your cart now. So you need some new leaders.
But whatever you do, don't hold onto things for their own sake. Programs are means to an end. Evaluate their effectiveness. Keep what works; get rid of what doesn't. Do whatever is necessary to help the church of Jesus Christ to advance.
Collaborative Theology for a Cross-Border Church
Great new website "Open Source Theology" well new to me anyway!
A friend of mine, Lammert Vrieling (now the Europe director for CAI ) has an article on The Weight of Glory - some great stuff on this site go and see, go on...
My pulling together of a few 'transitions' from Sweet and Easum. Let me know which you like and which are a load of tosh!!
gone to coming
ideologies to intuitions
ultimate truth to relational truth
knowledge to wisdom
provincial to global
home to community
central fountain to flood from the fringe
evolution to revolution
solid to fluid
either-or choices to both-and choices
formal boundaries to changing patterns
hierarchy to organism
management to entrepreneurship
control to permission
religion to spirituality
entitles offices to authentic leaders
prophetic confrontation to visionary direction
authoritative voices to spiritual coaches
guardians of truth to motivators for mission
ladder to web
authority to relationships
excellence to authenticity
living in boundaries to living on frontiers
truth to experience
ordered to chaotic
persuade to influence
uniformity to diversity
call back to call forward
Funny, funny moment this morning. A friend of mine sent me a text saying:
"Im in London (dont ask!) need your help urgently call me on 02079304832 batt low ask 4 Elizabeth and she will pass u 2 me"
Like a complete sucker I called it, keen to help my friend! And I am still chuckling ...
Bless me Father, for I have sinned. I have been with a loose woman." The priest asks, "Is that you, little Tommy Shaughnessy?" "Yes, Father, it is." "And, who was the woman you were with?" "Sure and I can't be tellin' you, Father. I don't want to be ruining her reputation." "Well, Tommy, I'm sure to find out sooner or later, so you may as well tell me now. Was it Brenda O'Malley?" "I cannot say." "Was it Patricia Kelly?" "I'll never tell." "Was it Liz Shannon?" "I'm sorry, but I'll not name her." "Was it Cathy Morgan?" "My lips are sealed." "Was it Fiona McDonald, then?" "Please, Father, I cannot tell you." The priest sighs in frustration. "You're a steadfast lad, Tommy Shaughnessy, and I admire that. But you've sinned, and you must atone. You cannot attend church for three months. Be off with you now." Tommy walks back to his pew. His friend Sean slides over and whispers "What'd you get?" Three month's vacation and five good leads."
.Posted by: Central Vineyard | 5/06/2003 04:52:00 pm |
Purpose-driven. Without a doubt we live in a purpose-driven world. Work is purpose-driven – increasing pressure to perform, meet targets; if those are met this month, they increase the next. The Western financial system is based on projections, growth, targets. Marketing drives home a product to meet a specific social group. People are cogs in the machine of companies to drive out the business goals. We are purpose driven in our travel – we drive to get anywhere, get cross at traffic queues and delays – we have to get there NOW! We walk to get the shops, we shop to buy things and get home. We expect everything to take less time and so we plan more in. Our lives feel interrupted by all these necessary tasks distracting us from our unspoken goal – leisure time. I.e. watching tele, relaxing. But we don’t really relax because the doing, the drivenness of our world infects – we can’t sit still and we can’t stop our heads buzzing. Our relaxing has to become ‘extreme’ to even impact our over-stimulated senses.
And so our churches become purpose-driven, our lives become purpose-driven, our prayers become purpose-driven. Everything is evaluated on what is the purpose? I.e. is it worth investing my well-earned money/leisure time on? People become resources to used for the ultimate aim – purpose.
I wonder what a world would be like that was consumed with being rather than doing, who we are rather than what we do and how we can do it better. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think that Rick Warren is the anti-Christ or anything. But let’s let church BE the church, let the purpose be the Story, let people be the image of God, the new humanity.
If that was true how would we get to the shops? A little slower, so we can meet people and be God to them? How would we treat our neighbours? Allow time for relationship to happen naturally [not just wave from the car as we drive past]? What would we do with our time? Plan a little less in and see what the experience of ‘space’ was like?
Hi, everyone, just blogging from a cafe in Bridlington - I will be back and safe in the midlands on Friday... byeckers like
.Posted by: Central Vineyard | 5/01/2003 01:03:00 pm |
